Oct 13, 2025
In this episode of The Necessary Entrepreneur with Mark Perkins, we sit down with powerhouse couple Kass and Mike Lazerow, entrepreneurs, investors, and authors of “Shoveling $h!t: A Love Story.” Together, they share honest insights on building businesses, navigating marriage, and leading with empathy through life’s inevitable messes.
From founding multiple startups to investing through Salesforce Ventures, Mike and Kass reveal how vulnerability, partnership, and resilience have shaped both their personal and professional success. They discuss the importance of mindset, communication, and staying grounded while creating meaningful impact and long-term wealth.
This inspiring conversation blends humor, candor, and hard-earned wisdom on what it really takes to build, together.
Key Takeaways:
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How to build strong partnerships in business and marriage
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Lessons in leadership, empathy, and emotional intelligence
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Turning challenges into growth and opportunity
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The mindset behind lasting success and fulfillment
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Creating balance between ambition and authenticity
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